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    Koi cu problema?

    Salut!
    pentru cei care aveti koi de mai multa vreme,am o intrebare:
    se da Koi-ul din imagine,care se afla mine de anul trecut din vara.A trecut iarna cu brio si a fost intotdeauna "vesel".
    De cateva zile,cam 2-3 zile,nu a mai venit la suprafata dupa hrana.
    Cu greu l-am zarit pe fundul iazului,la 2m adancime,stand nemiscat,in pozitie normala,cu inotatoarele la un unghi de 90 grade fata de corp.Si e foarte umflat in abdomen.....cred,nu stiu daca e femela sau mascul,nu stiu sa fac diferenta dar dup marime ar fi apt de reproducere,are 30cm.
    L-am prins azi,destul de greu ca la vederea minciogului prindea viteza foarte mare,si l-am bagat intr-un acvariu de 240L in care cresc plante.
    Sta cam nemiscat si respira.
    Sa fie semn de vreo boala ceva?
    restul pestilor din iaz sint 100% in forma maxima,apa este in parametrii normali,filtrare foarte OK,oxigen din cascada,fantana arteziana si din 3 pompe de oxigen in 3 locuri si adancimi diferite,2 filtre UV-C,apa e limpede fara alge.
    mancare odata pe zi,seara, JBL pond stick 4in1 multivitamine.
    Va astept cu pareri si eventual ceva tratamente daca e cumva bolnav.
    Cu stima.
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    Experienta nu am prea multa dar iata ce am gasit pe net My fish has a swollen / bloated abdomen... ?

    This is a common but difficult problem and typifies the problems involved in fish disease diagnosis. Abdominal swelling is not a disease - but a clinical sign of several possible health problems. Because an internal disorder is involved, in most cases it isn't possible to say what the problem was until a post mortem is carried out. The most common causes are:

    1. PROBABIL
    A genetic disorder that usually shows as the fish grows older. In the early stages this seems to cause little discomfort for the fish and it will lead a normal life for some time - often several years.

    2. DACA NU E PALPABILA NU CRED
    A tumour or growth. The only option in this situation is surgery, which clearly requires professional help. However, the survival rate of such procedures is very low as this is still very much an experimental procedure.

    3.SOLZII SUNT NORMALI
    Systemic bacterial infection, which is usually accompanied by raised scales, protruding eyeballs and sometimes reddening / inflammation on the body. If caught early enough this may respond to a course of antibiotic injections. Bath treatments are rarely successful See bacterial infections

    4.IDEM 3
    Viral diseases: Much the same signs as bacterial infections but no cure

    5. POSIBIL
    Internal organ disease - such as heart problems- leading to an accumulation of fluid in the abdominal cavity. This leads to a balloon-shaped swelling and the abdomen feels very soft and sqidgy - unlike a tumour which tends to feel hard. No cures, and heart transplants are just not on.

    6. INCEARCA CEVA MAZARE ETC
    Intestinal blockage / constipation: This is more usually associated with loss of equilibrium, but in some severe cases it can lead to swelling. The only possible treatment is either try to feed the fish a few frozen peas, which act as a laxative, or else try baths in Epsom salts (70g / litre for 5 minutes) which has the same effect. If the condition is advanced, the success rate is likely to be poor

    7. CEL MAI PROBABIL
    Could indicate intestinal parasites. Making wet mounts of faeces for microscopic examination may assist diagnosis.

    Am mai citit despre o boala in care icrele nu sunt mature pentru a fi depuse dar se aduna in interiorul femelei
    Dystocia or egg binding is something you will experience from time to time with mature female koi.
    This condition will be evident in mid summer although things started to go wrong as early as spring.
    The ovaries need time to develop prior to spawning. If this does not happen, eggs will accumulate in the ovaries and will not mature. This process is continual so, even though the eggs are not mature enough to be spawned, more will be added as the season continues. This results in egg binding.

    P.S. Sincer sa fiu nu cred ca exista in Romania vreun veterinar pentru KOI incearca poate gasesti ,macar pe net , pe cineva la vreo crescatorie de crap care sa aiba cunostintele necesare ... Repet ce am scris aici e de pe net nu am experienta ... Scuze ca nu am avut timp sa traduc

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    merci mult
    am cautat si eu cate ceva si tind sa cred ca avand conditii foarte bune sa fie problema de icre si nu de paraziti sau viremii.
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    Uite-te in zona anala,nu se vede nimic?
    Nu am experienta cu Koi,dar tatal meu a avut o problema,pot sa zic asemanatoare!

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    in zona anala nu se vede absolut nimic,peste are un aspect fizic de invidiat,posibil sa nu fi depus icrele si sa-mi fac griji degeaba dar totusi nu inteleg de ce este apatic si nu mananca?!
    Daca tatal tau a avut o experienta asemanatoare,inteleg ca a depasit problema.
    Care a fost rezolvarea? asta ma intereseaza!
    l-am izolat si l-am tinut 30 minute intr-un bazin de 25L cu 2 capsule de tetraciclina dupa care inapoi in bazin de 240L cu un flacon de triplafavina sau cum ii zice,nu are ce sa-i faca rau ca este un dezinfectant care mai starpeste si niscai paraziti.
    sa vedem evolutia lui in zilele urmatoare pt ca va sta in carantina pana va reveni la forma initiala.
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    evolutia nu se va mai vedea.....pestele a murit asta noapte.Imi pare foarte rau de el,era un exemplar marisor de 30cm si am muncit mult pentru a avea conditii optime de viata.
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    Si mie mi-au murit in primavara ambii crapi din iaz (nu koi ci romanesti) au sarit pe mal dupa o lunga perioada de stat in iaz iar pana i-am vazut era mult prea tarziu abia apoi mi-am dat seama ca erau pereche si cautau apa mica pentru depunere probabil si din cauza carasilor daca imi dadeam seama poate ii mai aveam si acum deci sfatul meu ar fi sa cauti cauza pentru a nu avea aceasi problema si cu ceilalti ...
    Pacat de el era un peste frumos ... m-am uitat totusi mai atent la poze ochii sunt putin umflati sau mi se pare mie ?

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    Ai taiat pestele sa vezi ce are in abdomen?

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    Scuza-ma am fost ieri la un concert si nu am apucat sa intru....
    Exact aceelasi lucru a patit si crapii lui tata.......
    A incercat sa-i trateze cu verde de malachit(concentratie mare),tata a studiat piscicultura care se preda la o faculta' din Timisoara,eu am tot fost pe langa el plus ce am aflat de pe forum speram si noi sa iasa ceva low cost si de calitate(a apei)
    Imi pare rau de peste,chiar a fost un exemplar...Gata nu mai invart cutitu-n rana....

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    Nu l-am taiat pentru ca mi-a fost mila sa-l macelaresc...chiar si asa mort,doar ca sa-mi satisfac curiozitatea.
    Este important oricum sa stii ce sa cauti odata ce-l diseci,sa stii ce este sau nu este la locul lui,altfel......
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